From: Knight in white satinI'm a level 0 master of Omega, but I haven't really been able to do much; I finished the thieves' quest, which was to kill someone from the order of paladins, the magic users quest, (the Eater- I'll get to that in a moment), and I'm master of one other order which I don't remember what it is. ANYway, I'm writing this to tell whoever asked MY secret for getting the heart of the eater of magic- (Sorcerors, that was it, I got the lawbringer's crown) you charge in there with a speed of 5.00, totally ignore the priests, use boots of levitation to float over that nasty water, charge in, bash the eater with a good weapon (for GOD's sake don't use magic), grab his heart, and git while the priests are still thinking. The secret to most any of the quests in this game is hit-and-run; if you belong to a fighting order and to the collegium, you can beat on the magic opponents and vv. I got the Wyrm in the bottom of the sewer while I was like 10th level or something (from an 18th level dungeon!) that way. Anyway, I'm starting to repeat myself, so I'll shut up now. Good luck and happy omegging! Eric =================================================================== From: Gunnar Radons Hello omega fanclub, A new hint for those who are need. Ever worn a bottle on a finger? Or a waffer of lembas ? Try it ! Get the thing up in the air, put the cursor on your finger of choice and exchange. Repeated doing can bring your hitpoints from nearly zero back to maximum. Also the effects of the potion (i.e. levitating) starts. You may do as often as you like (at least I'm walking with my first potion and had no bad effects yet). With the object first up in the air I could also use a flail in the armor slot. Bye Gunnar ==================================================================== From: Matt Cohen I have been playing way too much Omega over the last few weeks and now am: Level 1 Master of Omega, Ultimate Avatar of Chaos, Archmage, Shadowlord, Prime Sorceror, High Priest of Destiny, Commandant, Duke of Rampart, and Adept (if you don't know what that is, then you've got a long way to go.) The way I killed the Eater of Magic was to be invisible, stand just around the bend in the hallway, map the EoM's cave with clairvoyance, and disrupt him to death. (You can tell where he is because there are "."'s where he and the priests are and he's in the middle.) This method works rather well in general. Raymond seems to be having several wierd problems. What version are you using? I run under Unix, on a Sun with Omega 0.75. I had some wierd similar problems with earlier versions. Be careful when skipping levels, you might miss the "special" monster. This happened in the Goblin Caves to me; I used an elevator and skipped the 10th level (where the king is) and got to the 35th level before I realized this must be going on. The "special" levels are: Rampart Sewers 18, ArchMage's Castle 16, Goblin Caves 10, and Volcano (whew!) 20. You cannot warp to a special level. Try the level above and walk down. (In rogue and moria, any level at or below the special level triggers the big monster. In Omega, if you miss it, you have to go back...) The Demon Emperor is on level 20 of the Volcano and he is NASTY. Does anyone know how to not become afraid of demons and ghosts without a potion of banishing fear? (That's what I used.) I killed him by casting sanctuary and then disrupting him. Has anyone found the Dragon Lord? He's also extremely nasty. Much fun. Getting cursed items uncursed is wierd. Basically, you have to bless them, some more than others. Items appear to have a bless/curse value. The more cursed an item is, the more blesses it takes to fix it, and the more blesses an item has, the more a monster has to curse it to make it cursed. This is independent of plus, except that when an item initally becomes cursed, its plus goes down one and/or stops working or _reverses_ effect. You can either cast the bless spell, if you have it, or if you are a priest (of Destiny, at least) and you sacrifice enough to your God, he/she/they/it will give an item a mondo bless/enchant (ask for Blessing). This took me forever to figure out: the alchemist's "pay for transformation" is not to transform you (I initially thought it was for if you get canged into a toad or something), it is for transmuting certain monster remains into magic items! (You figure out which ones...) How long did it take folks to figure out how to mount a horse? Another hint: Orbs - collect the whole set and redeem a valuable prize! (Black Orbs don't count.) =================================================================== From: Gunnar Radons Hello folks, if you don't mind to get a servant of chaos, toy may shorten your way by pickpocketing the priests in the temple of the druids. Stop when you get a mace. This way I got a defender (2. quest of the duke) and a dragonscale armor (3.quest of the duke). Drowning is prevented by a potion/spell of breathing or dto. levitating. Also being mounted helps. The way of receiving magic benefits i.e. from tabs, wafers, potions etc. while wearing them on a finger (1. get them i.t. Air, then exchange with the finger) has sideeffects due to variable-size. When strengthen yourself with repeated exchange of stimtabs, you may receive easy more then 130 in strength. After that your maximum load gets larger then 32k and will become negative. When going on, to get it positive again, CON (the first val) went negative (more then 128?). So keep an eye to your status lines. The Hit and run technique described a few days earlier works fine for the eater of magic, but failed yet with the lawbringer. Execept for one try, the cave was flooded with mirroshades, and a Nazgul stoped me soon after entering (even while my speed was 5). So bringing a staff of sleep to the lawbringers cave might be a good thing. Get youre items identified before you sell them to the thieves. The <>70 AU will be soon back into your pockets. Bye Gunnar ===================================================================== From: Gunnar Radons Hi omega fans, did somebody yet manage to get into hy magick? The document from the library sounds interesting but any time I tried ctrl-g brother appears and warned me not to interfear with it. The spell of ritual magic does not be related with it (by now i'm archmage and had eraned some AU by ritual magic (the townpeople seem to like the coulours accompanying it)). A once got the spell of wishing but died before i could save. Once upon a time in an abyss a young naked magician wandered and had trouble with a void. I know it is the fifth elemental, but what is the sense of the void? Any experience within the abyss is greatly appreciated. btw: don't get to chaotic. The Archdruid might be out of house so there is no way back (maybe except wishing). ===================================================================== From: Gunnar The archmages castle: Knowing that something was down there, I went to the castle of the archmage and searched it from top to bottom, thereby slaugtering some one dragon and getting the sceptre. Back to Rampart I went to the oracle and used her to get into the astral plane..., just like you described it. Beyond that plane was another stairway down, which led to some super temple of the sorcerors, where I had to sanctificate at once to survive those Demon Princes (how do get a demblade blessed? The Lords of destiny won't do). After that I had to get the Star Gem and I think I also found the amulett of the astral plane (a shortcut to any village and temple/dungeon(?)). Back at Star Peak I activated the Star Gem, but because the Lawbringer was dead it only glowd and brought me back to the outside of Star Peak. After that I used the warp (with jumps of no more than six levels) to reach the bottom of the volcano, disrupted the Demon Emperor to death (maybe it was there that I got that amulett) and got level 0 master. HM, thinking fast I do a counterspell. As I remember, I got to the archmage from the castle, to the sorcerors from the astral plane, so the above description was correct (btw. by continous activation of the scepter you get more of it, and may sell the burnt out). when getting a scroll of wish, wish for aquisition. I threfore got K... the key that was lost. Activating brought me all available spells, including wishing. But I'm not strong enough for the latter though it is wiped out after use. Questions: - how do I activate the orb corrct? Whan activating I am asked for the additional ding to do, but failed. Tossing to earth etc. seems to be a very fatal error, while mixing leads to an unstabelized orb. Is this because I'm a servant of chaos? (Thistleman disappeared even without me slaugthering him), Spells of law are to rare to get and wishing is to heavy. - How do I get to neutral or even law? - When entering the adepts challange, I have no problems with the electrical storm, the fire and earth. But the pool of acid always dissolved me, except for a few cases, when I first drained energy from it. The death wsa no problem then, he was burn't with hell fire But entering the void, led me always to death, something was not stabelized. - after solving all quests, are there other things to do before getting to the adepts challange? ===================================================================== From: CSSNET@NUSDISCS.BITNET I have encountered 2 of the artifacts in Omega, namely, - Amulet of Yendor - Potion of Life I know what the Potion of Life does, but what about the Amulet? I tried invoking it but nothing happens. Also, I have experimented with monstere part transformation. Seems that if the alchemist is willing to buy the part from you, you can also get it transformed into some magic item. Some examples are: - Manticore's Spikes - Blessed Staff of Missiles - Tesla Monstrs' Whip- Blessed Wand of Ball Lightning - Body of Salamander - Blessed Ring of Fire Resistance +3 - Spectre's body - Cloak of Negimmunity - Head of Jabberwock - Blessed Vorpal Blade +5 - Transparent Nasty - Potion of Invisibility - Fnord - Scroll of Summoning - Wyvern - Blessed Ring of Poison Resistance +5 - Frost Demon Lord - Demonblade - Frost Demon - rod of summoning - Lesser Frost Demon - Snowball Wand -20- - Blipper - scroll of teleportation - Phantasticon - scroll of true sight - Manticore - staff of missiles - fire elemental - wand of fireballs - dragon - dragonscale armor Other monsters which cannot be transformed may be sold off at either the pawn shop or thieves' guild, some of the parts fetch a rather handsome price. Also, on the topic of wishing, I have managed to learn how to cast the spell, it requires 100 mana points to cast, I have 108 mana points but each time I cast it, it prompts me for a request. I have tried Aquisition (as suggested by another Omega player) but ended up getting killed. What are the things that I can wish for? Does WISH use anything besides mana points? Also, are there any uses for the Golden Bejewelled Falcon which I can only sell for 0 AUs? ===================================================================== From: SHELDON The secret entrance to the castle is in the water, you just have to use the search command. Low intelligence can be usefull. If your intelligence is low enough you can get a scholarship from the library. If you do advanced research? (I haven't played in awhile) it will raise your intelligence, stay in untill you reach eighteen. (The program will not display this, you must keep track yourself.) Join the college for free. Join the thieves guild. They pay much more than the pawn shop for goods and they charge very little to identify your goods. Invisibility is very helpful in the arena. =================================================================== 21 From: Gunnar Radons Hello omega fanclub, if my messages are to boring for you (or the rest of this comunity) justn discard them from your reader. For all of the others a few hints from a beginner which got to the discoverer status for other beginners or seakers of whatever. - If you are the very start with an own character, be not to honest with the computer. A bit more of strength and intelligence raises some of your chances. After entering rampart (with your 250 AU and nothing more than your will to get it all) go to the mercenarys (use capitel M) and try to join the legion. If you pass the physical, you get a sword, a leather armor and 500AU. You might also try to join the gladiators (at the arena, but will get only a wooden sword, no money; there you have to fight in the arena to get money - or die). Then ask whether the collegium magii offers you a scholarschip. If yes you got one spell. Otherwise search the giuld of thieves (open all doors ans enter those houses. Do not look around. If you found them you immediately know). Pay there entrance few. After this go to the bank, deposit some money, look around and buy say 10 or so from the fast food (50AU). - Now leave rampart and enter either the goblins dungeon (se you have to a bit) or look for the archdruids temple. In the dungeon you'll find l thinks. Pack as lot as may carry and sell them to the thieves. In the temple look for three militant priests. Pickpocket them until y a mace (each priest, thanks sheldon). Also try to sell those to the th when you're back in rampart. - IMPORTANT: The thieves don't offer for cursed goods. Items, the thieve no offer for are probably cursed. Don't put them on but drop them some - This should give you some money and a bank error to your favour should even raised this. Now pay the fee's for the collegium and, if you can guild of sorcerors. - With your newly earned level enter the mace and look for the oracle. T enter the castle to get a quest. In the castle is also a vault which I no entry yet. - Horses (in the village) won't follow you in dungeons, but will follow temples. - You may variy some of the above for your need, but it should be enough get to into the first levels of experience. Try checking the mercenary and the giulds from time to time to raise your rank. Raising thieves a sorcerors rank drives you to chaos! - Don't touch all altars(countr).Some leave you without pack. In rampart else) worship at the lords of destiny. I tried them once after Odin an struck by odins light bolt. The lords are more tolerant. Try blessing sacrifice (good:armor, cloaks,rings, not so good:weapons). The lords l scrolls! - A few questions: who knows the secret entrance into the castle? Sheldo There is strip of water between a hedge and the castle wall. All walls imp.. (forgot the expression) execpt for one, which is only aged stone I also dived after quaffing the potion of breathing but couldn't find thing (checked with examine). Better ideas? I got into the dungeon till level 8 (than i ran out of mana due to Gob shamanes). Is there really a goblin king down there? or is it's head a in the castle vault? - Another question: I'm encountert in the PBM's (play by mail) Spiral Ar Spiral Arm 202, Kingdom, and CelestrekII/A (all European games). Anybo out there who also plays one of those and willing to contact me? - Klaus Ziegler, I lost your account number. Please contact me again . - Monster/Moria where might i find ibm-pc versions for those (EARN/BITNE Hope i could help some of you ======================================================================== 127 From: Gunnar Radons Hello omega fanclub, if my messages are to boring for you (or the rest of this comunity) just discard them from your reader. For all of the others more hints from a beginner which got to the senior explorer status for those who might have problems. A question first: Is there a special protection or combination of items to protect against mana drainage? Is there at least something (except the sorcerors guild, new ranking and prayers) which could restore your mana? The hints (thanks to all who wrote me): - The quests which the duke of rampart gives you are those: -Bring him the head of the goblin King. The Gob.King (monster symbol: K) is in the bottom of the goblin caves, just a few segments south of rampart. -Bring the sword of the Great Wurm which lives in the bottom of the sewers. Try to take as much protection as you can. More on the sewers will be enclosed later. -Bring him an dragonhide armor from the castle of the archmage, which is situated behind some secret mountain passes in the far NW of the map (maybe 6 fields behind that village). I was lucky enough to pickpoket it from one of the druids, so I don't know anything about the interna of that castle. -Last quest is an astral orb (or something sounding like that) I have no ideas about that yet. - Some other quests: -To become high priest of the lords of destiny bring them the holy symbol of Humperdink, in the Lords tempel outside ramparte (I have found lots of tempels, but couldn't identify them all yet). -To become archmage: Bring the heart of the mana eater to the collegium. He (it) is found on the island in the sea of chaos far SW of rampart. From the last SW village you have to go through the swamp. In the swamp there is another village and two temples, but all away from you. take about 60 fast food with you for you won't be able to hunt there. The mana eater lives inside that strange cave. Follow the river (which is not a real river) up north into the wall-enclosed part. When it begins to bend back, be prepared for light bolts and mana drainage. Save before you get into the false river. I died there, so no more information. -To become chief of the mercenaries bring them the Regalia of someone in (i think) the temple of set (which is in the great desert?). Not tried yet. - Don't raise your rankings in the sorcerors and thieves guilds if you are tending law or better. The sorcerors expelled me, so i have no chance of mana restauration except when reaching new levels. - Now to the archdruids temple. I think I reported that behind the altar their is a way to the right but a wall to the left Use search(s) to find a secret passage. At the end of the way left you find thistleman and two other priests. The priests may be pickpocketet until you find their mace. Also thistlman may be pickpocket for the holy symbol of druidism (only!!!). Better you talk to thistleman. He offers you neutralisation, which brought me from lawful back to neutral, tending to chaos. - The sewers. The sewer entrance is in the mace. Don't try to enter the hole of the sewer rat, use (>) to descend a level. The sewers down there have several monsters, most of them are easy to kill. But for the lower parts try to bring or find good armor and a bit of luck (I died two times after defeating the great wyrm until i could get the sword). You have to go down to level 18 to find the Wyrm. Maybe a scroll of warp or the elevator (not in every level) help you. -Dangerous monsters: Some fungus, which (in the midst and lower levels) emitts blinding spores. it needs 40 minutes without disturbation to restore your seeing ability monster symbol: (f). A swarm, which expands when you come near it. Annihilate it with a rod of disruption or magic. Normal fighting doesnt work. If you manage to escape it, do so. I first met the swarm at level 8; symbol: (s). A necromancer: drains your mana similar but heavier than an enchanter. Easy to kill if you manage to reach him; symbol (n) don't miss with a night haunt (n)! A shadow spirit. Zaps your strength, hit points and mana. Best to kill with one or two firebolts (i had to use the magic ones) symbol (S). Often in lower levels. Triton: like shadow spirit, but it just drains your mana and HP. Symbol (T,enlighted). Only from level 15 on. A Water elemental (W,enlighted). Strike low to smash it. The Great Wyrm (W, enlighted). Use good protection. A hard enemy, but easy to get if you are well equiped. A rod of unusal size (r, enligthed) his first strikes are out of the dark, then you'll see him. Uses spells to get your mana Drains your HP fast,but is easy to get with a couple of hits. - Maybe an error in the program, maybe aspecial effect of the sewers: I fought with the great axe of the goblin king (a bihanded weapon). Every time i took something into my ready hand, I had two great axes! This didn't work outside of the sewers. - A special item in the sewers: (symol &). I took it and it was named '?'. After activating, it doubled my HP! But only use it once, even if find it more often. Something like this might also found in the other dungeons. - Read all scrolls you find. You might need them somewhen. Quaff all useful potions you find or carry them until you need them. - SAVE EVERY LEVEL OF THE SEWERS BEFORE/AFTER YOU ENTER IT! ======================================================================== 46 From: Gunnar Radons Hallo Folks, The gray tablets which are found from time to time have very different effects. One raised my mana from 0 to the double of the normal value, another oversatiated me, so i had immediately to deliver my last meals. I haven't check extensively, but it might be, that some of theme might kill you, too. The items called '?' when taking are also very differnt. As mentioned before, one doubled my HP, but yesterday another killed me. I suppose you check those with a scroll of identification or the same spell after you put them into a free slot (did you ever ate from your left shoulder? The mana eater is some tuff guy. I have to correct my yesterday message a bit.The danger begins after the second rebend of the river. Check your weapon from time to time, ot but it in your bag befor you enter the rive because mine somehow vanished in one of the pools. Use a staff of sleep or the appropriate magic spell to put the four militant priests aside. Use a potion of monster detection or the spell to see where the Eater is (E,enligthed). Iused firebolts (magic and normal), magic missiles, and disrupt to blast him away, but no one worked. Also i had only time for two or three spells until my mana was eaten. Normal figthing was to short to get it, but i think it's the only way you can get him (btw: my armor was 13, def 20, damage >50). Maybe the spell of sanctification could also work? East of the island, midst in the swamp there is a volcane (sign: !), which contains a dungeon. I entered and found lots of interesting things but lots of mana eating demons,too. most could be blasted with the disrupt spell. Unfortunately a militant priest got me while a frost demon had destroyed my mana and put me asleep. I couldn't therefore explore the rest of the volcano Greetings from the Shadowlord of the g.of thieves, slippery jim (ranger)