____ __ ____ ____ __ ____ ____ ____ ____ __ ____ ___ ( _ \ /__\ (_ _)(_ _)( ) ( ___)( ___)(_ _)( ___)( ) ( _ \(__ \ ) _ < /(__)\ )( )( )(__ )__) )__) _)(_ )__) )(__ )(_) )/ _/ (____/(__)(__)(__) (__) (____)(____)(__) (____)(____)(____)(____/(____) _ _ _ _ ____ ____ ____ ___ __ __ ____ ____ ____ ( )/ )( \( )(_ _)( ___)( ___) / __)( )( )(_ _)( _ \( ___) ) ( ) ( _)(_ )__) )__) ( (_-. )(__)( _)(_ )(_) ))__) (_)\_)(_)\_)(____)(__) (____) \___/(______)(____)(____/(____) Battlefield2 Knife Guide ( a SimonSays Guide ) By |CBW|Simon http://www.canadianblackwatch.com _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Version 1.2 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ E-mail: Simon@CanadianBlackWatch.com Website: http://www.CanadianBlackWatch.com Website: http://www.CBWGaming.com Copyright 2007 |CBW| The Canadian Black Watch Clan _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Table of contents _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ +: Message from the author +: Authors knife stats +: Contributions +: History of this Guide 1: Introduction 2: Control Basics and Tips 3: Knife Situations 4: Missing with the Knife 5: Best Kit for Knife 6 :Knife Duel 7 :Knife Against Guns 8 :Knife Maps 9 :Knife Pistol servers 10:Badges 11:Rankes 12:Stats 13:Common Questions 14:Servers I play on 15:Copyright 16:Thank You _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Message from |CBW|Simon _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I often use google searches, forums and movie links to learn new or alternative tactics in Battlefield2. Many times I have come across the requests for help with the knife badge but I have never found a complete knife guide. I thought that by writing this guide, it would allow me to learn more about other player’s tactics when they write in to either dispute my methods or report an obvious exclusion. I remember when I set off one weekend to get my basic knife badge and managed to get it in my first attempt by use of stealth. During the game, my adrenaline was running high and I was excited and on edge the entire round. Once I completed my goal and the round, I wanted to relax and not go through that intense game again for a bit. I focused on some other weapons and didn't get back to the knife for a couple of weeks. Once I got back to the knife and focused on more kills for my veterans and expert badges I found that I was almost the only one I would see consistently knifing a person or three each round. The excitement is still there, but I'm used to it now and it doesn't wear me out by keeping me on the edge of my seat. There are probably thousands of people that can do better with the knife than I, but since they haven't written a guide, you are stuck with me. I am glad to take this opportunity to give something back to the BF2 community that has provided me with so much fun over the past few months. I dedicate this guide to the people out there who help others, be it by guides or forum posts. Also, to all the people who have had to tolerate my battle cry on team speak of "Taste my blade!" _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |CBW|Simon's current knife stats _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 5/21/06 - Basic 6/28/06 - Veterans 7/2/06 - Expert 7/26/06 - 300 3/31/07 - 803 Player ID 68617844 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Contributions _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ As previously stated, there are probably thousands of people that can do better with the knife than I. Also, I may not remember everything I know or have learned. If you have an idea and email it to me, I will review it and consider adding it to the guide (with proper credit to you). If you have questions of knife situations, I will try to answer them individually. If they keep coming up, I will add them to the guide. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ History of this Guide _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Created: 7/27/06 Update: 9/22/06 Release V:1.0 Update: 11/12/06 Release V:1.1 Last Update: 3/31/07 Release V:1.2 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Whats New _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 1.1 : Added Whats new section Added UAV section to knife situations. Codenamed Cerebro Added suggestions for combat zone. Codenamed You Are My Density 1.2 : Modified web addresses to match current whereabouts changed date on copywrite info Added Flash Bang to knife situations. Codenamed Walk Into The Light _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 1) Introduction - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This guide is for the Battlefield 2 player that wants to learn to use the knife effectively. We all know that the pointy end goes in the enemy, but in this guide you will be shown how to shop for targets of opportunity and to become lethal in close quarters situations. The tips in this guide can be used to help you achieve the Basic Knife Badge as well as the Veteran and Expert Badges, but for some of you, this guide will change a small part of the focus of your play. You will be a knife player. Some would say this is one of the extremely hated player types, as what you will learn to do take skill, daring and stealth. Being knifed is one of the more shameful things that can happen to a player in game ranking second only to being paddled by a medic. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 2) Your Knife Controls - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ It is no mistake that your knife control is default tied to the 1 key. Think about it. The weapon kills in one hit, body armor or not. The weapon needs no reloading and is instantly ready. Every single kit comes with the knife. The 1 key is fitting but if you want to really be ready for all situations, get a mouse with a few extra buttons on it and assign one of them to be the alternate weapon key for the knife. My own Mx518 gaming mouse from Logitech is set up to pull the knife, pistol, gas mask and also changes my mouse sensitivity so I can alter the mouse when I'm in a tank (very sensitive) or if I'm the gunner in a chopper (very slow and steady). The quick pull has allowed me to survive many meeting when I run out of ammo, or just allowed me to alter my plans when a knife opportunity presents itself. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 3) Knife Use Situations - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ What are great knife situations? Any situation you have a high chance of killing your opponent without him even realizing you are there. Your fly is open: There are many times you will see the oblivious solo enemy perhaps wrench repairing a tank, or command asset, or even a singular enemy using the sparrow missile emplacements looking for a helicopter. You can shoot these people, and if we are talking about a distance that will take you 10 or 15 seconds to run, but this is where your knife is crying for blood. They are focused on a task and are deserving of a blade shaped reality check. I'm late, I'm late: There is the enemy player that runs past your cover and continues on, unaware of you. A bullet may get you two points, but a knife kill gets you the same points and a sense of accomplishment. They make it easy on you and most of the time run in a straight line and then stop and lie down to fire at some target off in the distance. The wolf in sheep’s clothing: If you see several enemy bodies and you hear one cry "Medic" (I have my English only speak enabled) then lie down IN the bodies, letting them mask your presence. When the medic comes, wait for the revive, and then kill them both. Be careful not to get paddled. Back door Susie: Ever come around a corner to find two or more enemy engaged in a firefight facing away from you? Nothing is more impressive than sticking two or three people in under three seconds in front of witnesses. I'm Batman (BF2 Special Forces): Snipers love to go up ladders or stairways and lay claymores at the entrance to their lair. Use the grapple of the AntiTank or Assault and let them figure out how you got up and snuck in behind them and stuck them. I'm Spiderman (BF2 Special Forces): Much like the Batman in reverse. You see enemy below you and you use your zip line to swoop in behind them and put yourself in position for the Back door Susie. Avon Calling: I have had a couple of situations where I spawn into a point and notice two or more enemy on the flag. You may already spawn on top of them and if you move fast enough, they will hesitate to shoot at you if you move in-between them. Twice in my life, I have repelled a three person flag attack with the knife. Without having to reload, nor hit more than once, it was the only way other than a grenade that I could have done it. The added advantage that they are probably sitting still and prone on the flag helps. Cerebro: With any map, there will be UAV times. Use the UAV runs as they occur to map out where your potential targets are. Think like them too. If you see two targets moving to a friendly flag, that may be where you want to spawn next if you happen to die soon. If you see a stationary blip in a spot you know to be a great sniper nest, you may have a setup for a Back door Susie. Watch the UAV runs and keep a situational awareness of where these little red dots are, where they are going or if they are planted. Don't be afraid to request UAV. You need to be a Squad Leader to do that and use your default T key to get the SL commo rose. You Are My Density: If you are looking for the basic knife badge, you want to go to areas of dense enemy activity and tight combat quarters. You do not want to be in the middle of it, but preferrably coming up from behind. You may want to hitch a ride with a chopper heading to a spot but going over enemy territory, or possibly take a boat or fast attack vehicle the long way around to approach from behind. You may think about being a Special Operations and blowing up the enemy UAV specifically so you can be as undetected as possible. If you are hunting for awards then the situation and a really good day are all you need. Don't go to low traffic areas and wait for the action to come to you. You will burn too much time and lose your chance of getting the necessary kills in a round. Walk Into The Light: If you know you are entering a room with a high chance of having enemy troops around, toss in a flash/bang from your Assault kit first. The blinding light lasts for 10 to 15 seconds. If you are lucky, three or four enemies will be wandering around totally blind. Add a knife to the mix and hilarity will ensue. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 4) Knife Miss - Issues - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Some people tell me that they try to knife someone and they see and hear the hit, but the other person lives. I have to describe to you what is happening here. Sometimes you will fight people and disparity between your pings may be large. You at a ping of 122 and the opponent at a ping of 10. Your opponent will appear to be three places in programming language. The first place is where he see's himself and this gets reported to the server. The second place is where you see him and this is from what the server reports to you. The third place is somewhere in the middle, where the server currently sees them to be. If on your computer, it appears you hit him, you will see the hit and hear it as these graphics are a function of your computer. As it turns out, he wasn't in knife range though so he continues on his merry way probably completely oblivious to your attack as he won’t hear or feel the hit that you saw. Try again. the bigger the disparity, the larger the difference of where he really is. When stationary, this isn't important, but on moving targets, it is. Remember that the first attack may not kill when you are attacking a moving target. Plan for the miss and the continuation of the chase and follow-through attack. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 5) What is the best kit to use - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ For every player and for every map, this will be a different answer. Use your kit and the map surroundings to your advantage. If there is plenty of foliage cover, be a Sniper with the ghillie suit and use the cover to sneak up and kill your targets. If there is no cover and you are taking fire at odd times, use the Support or Assault kits as you will have some body armor. In Special forces, remember that the Batman or Spiderman are very kit oriented attacks and require the grapple or zip lines. In specific cases, you can also use mines from the Engineer kit to protect you from Tanks and APC's or claymores from the Sniper kit to prevent being someone else's Back door Susie. After a while, you will find that no matter what kit you have chosen, that the knife situations will present themselves, so don't hesitate to experiment with whatever works best for you. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 6) Knife Duel - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ There comes a time when you try to knife someone and he runs out of ammo while trying to shoot you. Also, he may realize you are trying for a knife kill and offer you mano y mano combat. If he also pulls out his knife then you have some choices to make as to whether or not you just shoot him. I hope you choose to go through and fight it out Thunderdome style. Bob, weave and jump. Feign forward, backward and thrust. Of all my knife kills, I have been offered honorable combat once or twice so far. I remember those situations to this day where as I normally don't remember many specific instance in a days worth of BF2 gaming. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 7) Knife Against Gun - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Up close, the knife vs gun debate is a hot issue. My own personal feelings are that I've missed too many people up close with the gun because the person didn't sit still and let me kill them and I wasn't able to hit them more than once or twice before they shot me. Personally, I would prefer to dance with them and let them take pot shots at me while I move in for the blade kill. This gives them an adrenaline rush that will work in your favor. I have seen people time and time again overreact because they are being attacked by someone with a knife. This may give you the needed time to finish your opponent. Any time a close quarter combat situation presents itself, ask yourself if it should be gun or knife and be prepared to pull the blade at a moments notice. If your opponent is a sniper and holding his rifle, use the blade. Medium range, unless the target is not looking at you or if he is otherwise engaged in another target, you need to think about your gun or a feign. I often run in the opposite direction or half way around an object that is between me and the target which will obstruct his view and then double back. Usually the target will go to face you and you can attempt the Back door Susie. Medium range is very dependent on the situation and surroundings. Contemplate the gun as a backup plan. Distance, forget it. See if there is a way to close with the target discretely. The farther away a target is, the better a time it is to hunt for someone else. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 8) Maps - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Every map is a knife map. My own favorites are the ones that promote close quarters combat. For instance in Special Forces, the Iron Gator when one side has the mess hall and the other side has the forward hanger bay, the battle between those two points are fast as you contact the enemy within three seconds of spawn if you run to the other p osition. Also, between those two points are four different choices of travel. There is always a possibility to back door someone there. The other strong Special Forces map for me is Warlord. When one side has the third floor of the palace and the other side has the second floor, there are multiple choices for paths between the two points. Many opportunities for fast and multiple knife kills come up here. Make sure your team is not nade spamming before you run forward to do your deed. Also, if you have killed two or three already in a tight area, remember the Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing. For Vanilla BF2 maps, I've done a lot of good work on Strike At Karkand. The Hotel has a lot of alley ways that allow for CQB. I have also had a lot of luck and actually got my own Basic Knife on Songhua Stalemate as a sniper. The two sides on that map (Chinese and US) appear to use the same character for sniper. This gives you a moment delay as when you approach someone and are not shooting, they assume you may be on their side and delay for that important moment. Sharqi Peninsula at the construction site is also a great fast one to get a couple of blade kills in if the enemy has the flag point there. Please do not camp the spawn area and not attempt a flag capture. This is just flat out camping and not really what the game is all about. Some servers even have strong rules against such behavior. There are also so many knife kills out there that this practice is unnecessary. Since the release of the Infantry Only mode, you can now play on servers that will guarantee you will not be vehicularly harrassed while in pursuit of scalps. I have found these servers to be filled with medics and snipers both of which make my knife tingle with excitement. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 9) Knife/Pistol servers - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Unranked servers I don't have an issue with. Ranked servers are against the Rules of Engagement set up by Electronic Arts. Play on them and possibly have your stats wiped if you are caught. If you are going to listen to anyone regarding this route, then take my advice here: The awards are not real and are worth nothing to other people. Go this route and they are worth nothing to you as well. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 10) Badges - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -> Knife Combat <- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - Basic = 7 Knife Kills in 1 round - Veteran = 50 Global Knife Kills - Expert = 100 Global Knife Kills _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 11) Ranks That require Knife Badges - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ First Sergeant - Basic Knife Badge Brigadier General - Veteran Knife Badge _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 12) Stats - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Knowing where you are in your quest for your Knife Badges may motivate you. Here are some stat sites that will let you view your current knife kills. http://www.bf2player.com/ http://www.bf2s.com/ http://bf2stats.formitron.com/ http://www.bf2tracker.com/ http://www.bf2stats.nl/ http://www.gameslave.co.uk/bfparser.cfm? http://www.spielerstats.de/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 13) Common Questions - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ None as of yet. Simon@CanadianBlackWatch.com Subject: Knife Question _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 14) Servers I Play on - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ When you read this you were the learner, now you are the master? Thou be drawn against heartless hinds? Turn thee then Benvolio and face thy death. CBW: Current site http://www.CanadianBlackWatch.com and http://www.CBWGaming.com Server: 69.65.31.139:16567 Canadian Black Watch BF2 Ranked SourceOfEvil: Current site http://www.SourceOfEvil.com Server: 69.65.15.212:16567 (Ranked) =SoE= Packet-Loss: Current site http://www.Packet-Loss.com Server: 66.102.113.61:16567 Euro Force Ranked Server Don't be saddened. Just because you get that "I wanna stab the fat man" look in your eye, doesn't mean I'll knife you. Often times I will just fill you full of lead. So do yourself a favor, don't let me know you are coming for me till after the blade slips between 5th and 6th ribs from behind me. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 15) Copyright/Distribution/Reproduction Guidelines - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This FAQ/Strategy Guide/Walkthrough is my own published work, and copyrighted by |CBW|Simon. Do not edit this FAQ nor borrow its contents in any way. If you want to use some information in your own guide, simply ask me. If you want to place this guide on your website download the file and host it, unaltered, on your own web server. Please give all proper credit for the guide. Any site out there has permission to host my FAQs (following the above terms), however, these are a list of current sites that host my FAQs officially: - http://www.gamefaqs.com/ - http://www.canadianblackwatch.com/ - http://www.cbwgaming.com/ - http://cbwgaming.blogspot.com/ ============================ - 16) Thank You - ============================ I'd like to thank the following people and clans for their help in making this FAQ possible: |CBW|The Clan - My brothers in arms. |CBW|Whipsaw - Always my cohort in treacherous humor attacks. |CBW|Spive - For your leadership, tolerance, guidance and friendship. |CBW|D@rknyte - The rock. Be it the one I hide behind if we are on the same team or the one that lands on my head if we are not. Thank you for recruiting me back in 2001. =HF= HellsFury clan at http://www.hellsfury.net for having hosted a BF2 Special Forces server that taught me the strength of teamwork and cooperation in BF2, not to mention many killer map strategies and much advice. =HF=Alfaeagle - Great clan and great fun. Thank you. =HF=Linkster - aka, Mr. Kills-a-lot. One of the best players I've met from skill to attitude. =HF=Spider-HF- - aka The Butcher. Humor and death on foot or in sky. =SoE= Source of Evil clan at http://www.sourceofevil.com for hosting an awesome server with rotating games from BF2 SF AF and EF. Also one of the founding members of the BF2player.com server alliance. =SoE=Dgrillo - Thanks for putting up a server and not putting up with cheaters and the likes. A clean server with fun gamers is getting harder to find. "The cutting edge of technology is covered in the blood of those who buy first" |CBW|Simon Copyright 2007 |CBW| The Canadian Black Watch Clan